I hesitate to say that they're playing incorrectly, but they're not playing in the way that yields what they want. Small Arms and Operative weapons assume they are being used by an Operative with Trick attack, add 20% more damage which is like making the operative weapon unwieldy. Trick attack is a single source of damage, it continues to scale even when the party is stuck with low level gear, it carries a debuff effect, to include things like bleed, which is a solid source of extra damage. Operative Kithslayer's Guide to the Operative (2018) Wheel-n-Deal's Operative Guide (2017) Solarian SF Solarian Guide ... Nisha, these all seem like guides to the basics of Starfinder, before many of the materials beyond the core rulebook were released. Its a shame that its just a macro and that we can not build a full fledged ability out of it but it works great. You cannot make any other attack during a round when you do this, and cannot take any action that affects or modifies your attack or the weapon you are attacking with. If I had to guess, your table is probably L1 or L2. Prerequisites: Str 13, base attack bonus +1. Gotta have that high Dex or something. Once the operative is 4th level and gains the debilitating trick class feature (page 94), the operative can additionally cause the target hit by a trick attack to have the normal flat-footed or off-target condition until the beginning of the operative's next turn. When you use Bluff to make a trick attack, you gain a +4 bonus to the skill check. Your trick attack does not deal any additional damage, but on a successful skill check it does cause your target to be flat-footed against your attack. Operative Specialization. Playing as the Android Operative Iseph, she was also introduced to the concept of a trick attack, although when being provided the options to cover, move or attack the app never again reminded her that she could choose to trick attack. and being one of the best starship officers in the game. I do not know why he thinks this is a good idea. Benefit: You can draw a weapon as a swift action. Open Gaming Store. If you hit, you deal damage normally and can make an additional melee attack (using your full base attack bonus) against a foe that is adjacent to the first and also within reach. You can make only one additional attack per round with this feat. Specialization Exploit: Master of disguise. Page 96: Replace … Maybe their player is an idiot like mine, and only put 10 int into the Operative. for anyone who min/max's their character, operative is the go-to class. At the lowest levels the bonus damage is around what you do with a normal small arm, but it scales up far faster than weapons do. So, the operative has to roll to see if the trick attack works, and then roll again to see if the attack hits (at a lower chance than the soldier if not for the fact that the target is flat-footed for the attack). 95 You gain a bonus combat feat. Trick Attack is another level one perk for the Operative that, if done successfully, grants them some additional damage to attacks. You can attempt an Acrobatics check to make a trick attack. Some of the things that really threw me were semi-colons versus colons, and lower case vs upper case sensitivity. But if your group is cool with this and wants to try a Gestalt sort of game... no one is stopping your fun. You specialize in missions requiring courage and athleticism. Starfinder Houserules All Classes. Operative Kithslayer's Guide to the Operative (2018) Wheel-n-Deal's Operative Guide (2017) Solarian SF Solarian Guide ... Nisha, these all seem like guides to the basics of Starfinder, before many of the materials beyond the core rulebook were released. Finally, rolling a 13 to apply the effect (remember, you roll to hit with the attack separately), gives you a less than 50% success rate. Whether or not you moved, you can then make an attack with a melee weapon with the operative special property or with any small arm. Whether or not you moved, you can then make an attack with a melee weapon with the operative special property or with any small arm. Well, sure you can do that if you're comfortable making them the most damaging character class in the game and now everyone else will need a boost to do damage anywhere comparable to that. I noticed that some of the Starfinder coding effects here don't always work on Fantasy Grounds Unity. Whether or not you moved, you can then make an attack with a melee weapon with the operative special property or with any small arm. As a full action, you can move up to your speed. In my group the top two damage dealers are me, a melee Solarian, and the operative. New Operative Specialiation: Pistoleer While all gunfighters may have a preference for one firearm over another, a pistoleer specifically focuses on pistol-combat, trading versatility for greater expertise in small arms. You’re a consummate professional, and you always get the job done, whether it’s scouting enemy lines, hunting down criminals, stealing and smuggl… You perform a special check (Which is what I'm looking for) and if that succeeds, it deals extra damage plus adds a modifier to the foe. The Operative's Specialization Skill Mastery applies to Trick Attack This has been confirmed directly by the lead Starfinder developer (Owen K.C. Or do I need to disable specialization for that weapon and just put the half level in the damage formula? That’s pretty darn good considering the operative is only making one attack roll. Daredevil Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. The target is flat-footed only against the single attack roll of the trick attack. A Trick Attack deals an expected 19.25 damage and connects 55% of the time, with a mean damage of 35 when it hits (the math is based on using a skill with a high enough bonus to pass the check on a Take 10, and using the Specialization Skill Mastery feature to be able to Take 10 on the check). So, explanation: In Starfinder, certain characters have a "Trick attack". This is a special attack which replaces your normal attack. You perform a special check (Which is what I'm looking for) and if that succeeds, it deals extra damage plus adds a modifier to the foe. the operative is already the most cheese weasel class in SF. Page 94: In the ghost operative specialization, in the associated skills entry, in the second sentence, change “+4” to “+1”. Operative Changes. A Trick Attack deals an expected 19.25 damage and connects 55% of the time, with a mean damage of 35 when it hits. Short answer, don't do it. You can draw a hidden weapon (see Sleight of Hand on page 146) as a move action. As a full action, you can move up to your speed. Pick one specialization upon taking your 1st level of the operative class. Minor Trick Attack (Ex, Archetype, 2nd Level): You gain the operative’s trick attack ability, subject to all of that class feature’s requirements. Associated Skills: Acrobatics and Athletics. Associated Skills: Bluff and Sleight of Hand. The operative needs to have the highest damage output or he is frustrated? (Edit: My expected damage numbers don't include crit chances, and I realized that your 55% chance on trick attack probably included the modifier for flat-footed, which I didn't account for in my assumption that each attack in triple attack had a 35% chance to hit.). Operative Specialization: Ghost no longer provides a +4 bonus to Stealth checks to make trick attacks. Roll damage only once for all targets. Trick Attack damage scales faster than the damage of the weapons it works with, so that would be a massive change to the character's damage output. It would most definitely be too strong. Yeah, he has 2 free skill ranks, 2 free skill focuses, can later take 10 in combat on anything he takes skill focus in, gets 8 free skill points plus his int bonus. Trick Attack Macro: Within the Basic Attacks section there is a Trick Attack macro created for the Operative Class ability of the same name. Disarm Trick (Ex): When you succeed at a trick attack using a weapon you could perform a disarm combat maneuver with (normally a melee weapon, unless you have some way to make disarm attacks with ranged weapons), you can forgo all damage to add a bonus to your attack roll equal to your normal dice of trick attack. You can attempt an Acrobatics check to make a trick attack. If those numbers are right, that should give triple attack an expected damage of 16.6525 instead of 5.45. (If, on the other hand, sniper weapons had half specialization, well, they'd be even worse for anyone else.) Operative Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. I need help updating the site!If you can help, please send me a message. Deiko said: So here's my trick attack code. Full attacks are risk/reward by making the attacks harder to hit for increased damage potential. Reply Delete. Any character can add her Dexterity modifier rather than her Strength modifier on melee attack rolls with weapons with this special property. He's the only class that gets more than 2 attacks painlessly (I think the martial classes can do 3 with a -6 penalty right?). Give it a few levels and their tune will change. It does seem to me there's a huge gap in damage between the martial classes and the rest but I think that's intended design. An Operative can use the trick attack class feature(see page 93) with a weapon that has this special property. allowing them to trick and full attack would break the game. Operative Specializations The following are some common operative specializations. When you hit an enemy with a trick attack using a ranged weapon that targets KAC, you can forgo the effects of your debilitating trick to instead ricochet the projectile to a second target. Finally, we’ll need to know our operative’s Intelligence for the Alien Archive exploit, so I’ll say that we took a 12 in that too. Yes, allowing Trick attack which is already within a close margin of a full attack to stack with an actual full attack would make the operative hands down king of damage. trick attack, and they lack the precision of the soldier when it comes to battle. If they could plant their feat and McCree unload into any enemy and far exceed my damage, I would flip the table. Can you then mechanically Multi Attack with a Trick Attack and still follow standard rules like first attack that hits deals the precision damage? Strength is low-priority compared to Int or Con (ESPECIALLY Con for a melee operative like ours), and since Trick Attack is supposed to off-set that Strength bonus a bit, it seems reasonable. As explained on p93, Trick Attack is a special kind of Full Action that allows you to move, and then make an attack. It doesn't approach the Soldier's damage output barring Death Strike or some other means of changing the Operative's damage math. We present seven specializations in the core rulebook—daredevil, detective, explorer, ghost, hacker, spy, and thief. Welcome to Staying in Character, where we mix, match, and mash our beloved pop culture icons into our favorite tabletop role-playing game systems. There are also many class options to enhance the trick attack, so some operative builds will likely prefer trick attack while others prefer to full attack and pick up different operative exploits. Danny, The attacks default to asking you if you want to full attack or single attack each attack. That player needs to understand that a Trick Attack is actually better than a full attack in most circumstances - the odds of actually landing more than one attack aren't great. ask the player if they would rather go Soldier and just give up being good-to-excellent at everything else to get a few more DPR out. As it relates to Character creation and management, thanks to the wide variety of alternate abilities and traits, it is difficult to automate everything for character creation/management. The following are some common operative specializations. Additionally, any character can add her Dexterity modifier rather than her Strength modifier to melee attack rolls with these weapons. Deiko, I love your solution and have adopted it into our campaign.. Our operative finds it easy to follow and it follows the correct order. It also has the advantage of being one big attack, so DR/Resistances only apply once. As well as Debilitating Trick and anything added by an Operative Exploit. Boost is extra 10-20% (as much as 33%) which isn’t always used and limits the number of attacks similar to unwieldy or trick attack. You'd be further breaking an already busted class. 04 Operative Specializations Your specialization represents your primary area of expertise. If operative could apply trick attack damage to them, they'd be the single most damaging option. Full attacks are risk/reward by making the attacks harder to hit for increased damage potential. True, the trick attack damage lags even worse with time and past mid level you will increasingly find reason to full attack instead. Each attack takes a -2 penalty in addition to other penalties, such as the penalty to all attacks during a full attack. The operative's debilitating sniper operative exploit (page 96) allows trick attack to be used with a sniper weapon (though it does no extra damage), but sniper weapons are unwieldy and require taking a move action to aim them. Starfinder Core Rulebook p.94. The operative knows that sometimes getting things done means doing some damage, and the class gains a fair base attack bonus, poor Fortitude saves but good Reflex and Will saves, light armor, and proficiency (and eventually specialization) with basic melee weapons, small arms, and sniper weapons. You can use trick attack with sniper weapons. My thoughts on this would simply be to give the players a free trick attack once per round if they are flanking an enemy, like how pathfinder sneak attack works. Realistically, an Operative is only full attacking when they want to hit multiple targets - with Trick Attack, their single target damage is higher than the highest damage Longarm of that level (and that's with the difference in Specialization damage factored in).